"I will be positioned in the same seat by 2027," the Prime Minister declared, adding that if our discussion proceeded smoothly, he might invite the interviewer into his official residence for a follow-up talk in the coming year.
There is never truly downtime for leaders. In the hour before the interview began, Starmer had been on the phone with Ukraine's Volodymyr Zelensky and trying to work out what on earth had transpired in Venezuela, where his close political chum, US President Donald Trump, had recently attacked and captured its leader, Nicolás Maduro.
Once our lengthy talk, which was far more extended than normal, had concluded, Maduro had been formally accused in New York.
But as the year starts, Sir Keir seems to have had a degree of a refresh. Perhaps even just some relaxation with the family at Chequers, the prime minister's official country residence.
This appeared to have resulted in a more positive mood than at the difficult tail end of 2025, a awful annus horribilis for him.
But are he and his colleagues deluding themselves if they think his political fate are poised to improve?
The grisly truth for the PM is that a significant number of his colleagues believe he's ineffective at his job. Some of them would rather take a risk and oust him in 2026.
However Starmer was rejecting the idea during our conversation on Saturday morning.
Repeatedly he insisted he'd be "evaluated at the general election", maintaining nobody would remove his term from him – despite the fact that the best chance of preventing Nigel Farage and Reform UK getting to No 10 might be for Labour to replace its leader.
"This is the fight of our lifetime and I aim to be at the forefront," he affirmed.
The challenge for the prime minister is that he will be assessed long before then – in a major set of elections in May throughout the UK. He tried to argue, maybe too much, that they are about who runs local authorities, and who runs the governments in Holyrood or Cardiff – and not a verdict on Westminster.
Accurate – to some extent. But even though he may not want to admit it, No 10 will be evaluated by those elections too.
This did not stop Sir Keir suggesting that there were no scenario under which he would resign, even if a his colleagues contested his leadership for the job, if those elections be disastrous for Labour.
He tried to account for his unpopularity by saying the electorate was reasonably eager for things to improve. He sought to assure the interviewer, and the nation, that this year would be different.
The economic situation would improve in the face of rising unemployment, he claimed, when plans the administration enacted during their initial turbulent year began to show results.
His core argument is that soon the country will "reach a turning point".
The prime minister may have communicated with renewed vitality than I've seen from him for a some time – more relaxed, maybe, with a longer slot to talk.
But despite encountering pressure from many directions for a bolder strategy, with much more political direction, more urgency, more pace and more immediacy, his arguments were familiar ones.
When he finds himself in considerable political trouble, does he need a new narrative?
No government, and certainly not one that has been struggling in the polls for an extended period, gets everything its as planned.
The Prime Minister's problems are not just because governing is difficult, but because he and his colleagues have made mistakes, even in the recent past.
The prime minister expressed regret that he was sorry for saying he was "happy" to welcome back the Egyptian-British activist Alaa Abd El Fattah to the UK after an backlash when past remarks he'd made in the past – such as calls for Zionists and police to be killed – resurfaced.
Starmer attributed it to "procedures" for not catching what the activist had said before – a fancier way of saying not my fault.
And he is courting evident political risks as the year gets going. His close relationship with the US president takes on a new complication after Trump's strikes on Venezuela.
Based on years of interviewing Sir Keir Starmer, a ex- human rights lawyer who was against the war in Iraq, over a long period, the idea he would be content with these events seems implausible.
He stated he was a "lifelong champion of international law" but the public "just do not have the full picture at the moment".
Opponents called for him to criticise the action before the interview. And the government is expected to face further scrutiny to give an definitive view in Parliament in the next few days.
There has also long been simmering desire in the Labour party to reverse or renegotiate some of the consequences of Brexit.
The PM disputes he's pursuing that, but his new more concrete commitment to integrate further with the single market – the giant economic European trading zone – will likely elicit howls that he is going back on his vow never to try to overturn the results that followed Brexit.
A move to align with more of the single market will satisfy some on his backbenches, but it is prime ammunition for Reform and the Conservatives to
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